Weapon Questions - Guild Wars Forums

Lt.Crumpet · Apr 04, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

There is one thing that is kinda bugging me so far, but before I go any farther Ill tell you that I missed the March BWE so if this sounds redundant or stupid i have an excuse.
In several of the Guild Wars wallpapers and in the loading screen there is dual wielding. Will there be dual wielding in the final game? And maybe one handed maces/hammers and two handed swords and axes?

NiteX · Apr 04, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Haha, I was just about to make a thread about dual weapons. Luckily I read yours before. But yeah I want to know the same thing. I think if you have a warrior profession either first or second you should be able to dual wield. I would sure like two swords or axes.

static deathbringer · Apr 04, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Lt.Crumpet

There is one thing that is kinda bugging me so far, but before I go any farther Ill tell you that I missed the March BWE so if this sounds redundant or stupid i have an excuse.
In several of the Guild Wars wallpapers and in the loading screen there is dual wielding. Will there be dual wielding in the final game? And maybe one handed maces/hammers and two handed swords and axes?

there is at this time no dual wielding but may be in future chapters

Lt.Crumpet · Apr 04, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46

ya i really think there should be dual wielding but it should be kinda hard to get. maybe only able to get the skill at at least lvl 25-30 or somthin.

NiteX · Apr 04, 2005, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Lt.Crumpet

ya i really think there should be dual wielding but it should be kinda hard to get. maybe only able to get the skill at at least lvl 25-30 or somthin.

But, the game has a lvl cap limit of lvl 20 0_o.

Loviatar · Apr 04, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by NiteX

But, the game has a lvl cap limit of lvl 20 0_o.

and they are not raising it for the next chapters either

Kityn · Apr 04, 2005, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Perhaps a special weapon set for dual wielding which would give everyone a chance at getting duals who has a warrior as primary or as a secondary profession.I think a lil more damage would apply but defense would drop a lil as well to offset having duals.It would mostly be a cosmetic look

Kha · Apr 04, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by czymann

Perhaps a special weapon set for dual wielding which would give everyone a chance at getting duals who has a warrior as primary or as a secondary profession.I think a lil more damage would apply but defense would drop a lil as well to offset having duals.It would mostly be a cosmetic look

Dual wielding should be a new attribute for a new profession introduced in a future chapter. I hope this is how it will work because it would make sense. Just because you know how to use a sword doesn't mean you can effectively dual wield them. So I agree that a special weapon set would be nice, and have it for the Dual Wield attribute.

I think this topic has already been discussed. It doesn't hurt to search before posting.

Kityn · Apr 04, 2005, 07:39 PM // 19:39

[QUOTE=Kha]Dual wielding should be a new attribute for a new profession introduced in a future chapter. I hope this is how it will work because it would make sense. Just because you know how to use a sword doesn't mean you can effectively dual wield them. So I agree that a special weapon set would be nice, and have it for the Dual Wield attribute.

That would be a much better idea.What I suggested was just the bare minimum.I didn't want to sound too hopefull

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=dual+weapons

and

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=dual+weapons

Elythor · Apr 04, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Or there might never be dual weapons at all. If you were in the last BWE (ie before the recent UI changes), you'd notice that Devona (ie girl in the loading screen) only has a single sword/dagger now...and no long dual wields.

I suppose ANet did that to prevent expectation of dual wielding in game.

sama · Apr 04, 2005, 11:43 PM // 23:43

hmm, how would that work with two swords. it would make swords overpowered no? swords are fastest melee weapon and two of them is more dmg than a hammer. and like do you final thrust with two swords? that's 130+ dmg...

Lt.Crumpet · Apr 06, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

yes it would do a ton of damage but the way i was thinking u would also take a ton of damage b/c u dont have a shield. maybe it would be better for a special class like rogue or somthing. if warriors are takin tons of damage it kinda ruins the hole tank aspect.

Lt.Crumpet · Apr 06, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

correction: takin tons of damage as in dying fast, not just the tons that they take already.

Orbit · Apr 06, 2005, 04:44 PM // 16:44

If they added dual weapon ability in a new chapter, that would open a lot of new stuff. One thing would be new skills for dual weapons.
Blocking, crossing your swords in front of you blocks the next attack. Spinning around attack, attack all adjacent foes near you. hehe

Manderlock · Apr 06, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Kha

Dual wielding should be a new attribute for a new profession introduced in a future chapter. I hope this is how it will work because it would make sense. Just because you know how to use a sword doesn't mean you can effectively dual wield them. So I agree that a special weapon set would be nice, and have it for the Dual Wield attribute.

I think this topic has already been discussed. It doesn't hurt to search before posting.

bah, i think that if any class can get dual wielding it should be tha warrior

just how i feel tho.......

Aladdar · Apr 06, 2005, 05:13 PM // 17:13

why? because other games have allowed it? I don't think anyone should be able to dual wield huge swords. The only dual wielding that is believable to me is to have a rogue type character dual wielding small weapons such as daggers, sais, etc... More martial weapons.

I would love to see this added in a new profession in an expansion.

Manderlock · Apr 06, 2005, 05:23 PM // 17:23

i can see dagers, however how is duel shimatars "huge" swords?
im not say that war's should get dual wielding great swords but being that he is a warrior i do belive that he has mastered many aspects of hand-to-hand combat, so why would dw be wrong?

Taranis · Apr 06, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

I think dual-weapons should be Ranger-based, for one wapon you just need some strengh to wield it and hit enemies with it but to use 2 weapons the same time you kinda need some dexterity too or youd hurt yourself, that's why I'd give the ranger dual weapons, but they should make it like this, both weapons when dual-wielded would have 75% of the true attack-power so if a ranger had 2 weapons they wouldn't end up being over-powered and unbalanced so if a Warrior with 1 sword and a shield would be able to face the Ranger with his 2 weapons since the shields giving him a better defence?! Sorry for my english in this post, hope you still got what I mean hehe!

Manderlock · Apr 06, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Taranis

I think dual-weapons should be Ranger-based, for one wapon you just need some strengh to wield it and hit enemies with it but to use 2 weapons the same time you kinda need some dexterity too or youd hurt yourself, that's why I'd give the ranger dual weapons, but they should make it like this, both weapons when dual-wielded would have 75% of the true attack-power so if a ranger had 2 weapons they wouldn't end up being over-powered and unbalanced so if a Warrior with 1 sword and a shield would be able to face the Ranger with his 2 weapons since the shields giving him a better defence?! Sorry for my english in this post, hope you still got what I mean hehe!

lol well me im a warrior guy, and you seem like a ranger guy

all that put aside i think we can both agree that dw should be implemented
at a later date. it maters not how they do or who they give it to, it would be a good addition

Fenix Swiftblade · Apr 06, 2005, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I think that if dual weilding were introduced it should be in the form of rogue type weapons (two daggers, rapiers (my personal RPG weapon of choice), short swords), and possibly as a second ranger weapon attribute with it's own set of skills. It would be a lot like permanent flurry, you attack faster but deal less damage. I don't think it should affect defense though (from a roleplaying standpoint, not a game balance standpoint), because if you know how to weild two weapons at once you should be able to use one to parry.

I really think they could be worked into this version of the game (I know it would have to be in a new chapter, but it wouldn't have to be a new class, or any other drastic change) The weapons would have to be a lot weaker for being fast though beacuse not only is there a faster attack speed in general, but for a warrior the adrenaline meters would fill up a lot faster. Another reason why it wouldn't be a good idea to give them to a warrior without a good deal of balancing in the attack skills.

Another idea would be to just make another type of off-hand item (in this case only daggers, or something similar) that would have both penalties and bonuses, i.e. more damage dealt but also more damage recieved. This way the existing weapon system is intact, and if these new items are properly balanced with the other off-hand options it would work.

Apr 04, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30	#1
Lt.Crumpet Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Profession: R/	Weapon Questions There is one thing that is kinda bugging me so far, but before I go any farther Ill tell you that I missed the March BWE so if this sounds redundant or stupid i have an excuse. In several of the Guild Wars wallpapers and in the loading screen there is dual wielding. Will there be dual wielding in the final game? And maybe one handed maces/hammers and two handed swords and axes?

Apr 04, 2005, 06:24 PM // 18:24	#7
Kityn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: Heroes of the Horn [HoH] Profession: N/	Perhaps a special weapon set for dual wielding which would give everyone a chance at getting duals who has a warrior as primary or as a secondary profession.I think a lil more damage would apply but defense would drop a lil as well to offset having duals.It would mostly be a cosmetic look Last edited by Kityn; Apr 04, 2005 at 06:26 PM // 18:26.. Reason: additional thoughts

Apr 04, 2005, 07:39 PM // 19:39	#9
Kityn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: Heroes of the Horn [HoH] Profession: N/	[QUOTE=Kha]Dual wielding should be a new attribute for a new profession introduced in a future chapter. I hope this is how it will work because it would make sense. Just because you know how to use a sword doesn't mean you can effectively dual wield them. So I agree that a special weapon set would be nice, and have it for the Dual Wield attribute. That would be a much better idea.What I suggested was just the bare minimum.I didn't want to sound too hopefull http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=dual+weapons and http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=dual+weapons Last edited by Kityn; Apr 04, 2005 at 07:48 PM // 19:48.. Reason: additional thoughts

Apr 06, 2005, 05:13 PM // 17:13	#16
Aladdar Elite Guru Join Date: Jan 2005	why? because other games have allowed it? I don't think anyone should be able to dual wield huge swords. The only dual wielding that is believable to me is to have a rogue type character dual wielding small weapons such as daggers, sais, etc... More martial weapons. I would love to see this added in a new profession in an expansion. __________________ Please read THE FAQ and our Forum Guidelines!!!

Apr 04, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34	#2
NiteX Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Camelot	Haha, I was just about to make a thread about dual weapons. Luckily I read yours before. But yeah I want to know the same thing. I think if you have a warrior profession either first or second you should be able to dual wield. I would sure like two swords or axes.

Apr 04, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46	#4
Lt.Crumpet Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Profession: R/	ya i really think there should be dual wielding but it should be kinda hard to get. maybe only able to get the skill at at least lvl 25-30 or somthin.

Apr 04, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#10
Elythor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Guild: Elysium Protectorate [EP]	Or there might never be dual weapons at all. If you were in the last BWE (ie before the recent UI changes), you'd notice that Devona (ie girl in the loading screen) only has a single sword/dagger now...and no long dual wields. I suppose ANet did that to prevent expectation of dual wielding in game.

Apr 04, 2005, 11:43 PM // 23:43	#11
sama Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: EST Guild: K A R M A	hmm, how would that work with two swords. it would make swords overpowered no? swords are fastest melee weapon and two of them is more dmg than a hammer. and like do you final thrust with two swords? that's 130+ dmg...

Apr 06, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49	#12
Lt.Crumpet Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Profession: R/	yes it would do a ton of damage but the way i was thinking u would also take a ton of damage b/c u dont have a shield. maybe it would be better for a special class like rogue or somthing. if warriors are takin tons of damage it kinda ruins the hole tank aspect.

Apr 06, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#13
Lt.Crumpet Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Profession: R/	correction: takin tons of damage as in dying fast, not just the tons that they take already.

Apr 06, 2005, 04:44 PM // 16:44	#14
Orbit Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2005	If they added dual weapon ability in a new chapter, that would open a lot of new stuff. One thing would be new skills for dual weapons. Blocking, crossing your swords in front of you blocks the next attack. Spinning around attack, attack all adjacent foes near you. hehe

Apr 06, 2005, 05:23 PM // 17:23	#17
Manderlock Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TX Guild: Crimson ScS Profession: W/N	i can see dagers, however how is duel shimatars "huge" swords? im not say that war's should get dual wielding great swords but being that he is a warrior i do belive that he has mastered many aspects of hand-to-hand combat, so why would dw be wrong?

Apr 06, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32	#18
Taranis Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005	I think dual-weapons should be Ranger-based, for one wapon you just need some strengh to wield it and hit enemies with it but to use 2 weapons the same time you kinda need some dexterity too or youd hurt yourself, that's why I'd give the ranger dual weapons, but they should make it like this, both weapons when dual-wielded would have 75% of the true attack-power so if a ranger had 2 weapons they wouldn't end up being over-powered and unbalanced so if a Warrior with 1 sword and a shield would be able to face the Ranger with his 2 weapons since the shields giving him a better defence?! Sorry for my english in this post, hope you still got what I mean hehe!

Apr 06, 2005, 05:59 PM // 17:59	#20
Fenix Swiftblade Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Guild: Illusion of Competence Profession: R/W	I think that if dual weilding were introduced it should be in the form of rogue type weapons (two daggers, rapiers (my personal RPG weapon of choice), short swords), and possibly as a second ranger weapon attribute with it's own set of skills. It would be a lot like permanent flurry, you attack faster but deal less damage. I don't think it should affect defense though (from a roleplaying standpoint, not a game balance standpoint), because if you know how to weild two weapons at once you should be able to use one to parry. I really think they could be worked into this version of the game (I know it would have to be in a new chapter, but it wouldn't have to be a new class, or any other drastic change) The weapons would have to be a lot weaker for being fast though beacuse not only is there a faster attack speed in general, but for a warrior the adrenaline meters would fill up a lot faster. Another reason why it wouldn't be a good idea to give them to a warrior without a good deal of balancing in the attack skills. Another idea would be to just make another type of off-hand item (in this case only daggers, or something similar) that would have both penalties and bonuses, i.e. more damage dealt but also more damage recieved. This way the existing weapon system is intact, and if these new items are properly balanced with the other off-hand options it would work.